Category: Health and Wellness
Hey all. I've never really understood why people want to go days without taking showers or bathing themselves. I really hate being around someone like this. The smell just gets unbarible. We have this girl at work who smells like she threwup on herself, and was even sent home because of her highgeen. Also a couple friends of mine never use deoderant and it's hard to be around them. I just don't understand why people want to be like this. Anyone else know people like this? It's very disgusting.
Troy
You'd like riding on some of the buses I have to take each day. If it's not a street person sitting next to you, then it's a friendly wierdo with garlic breath trying to make conversation. I used to avoid some guy who wore fake silver on his neck and wrists; the damn skin was turning green, I'm freaking serious, and he smelled damn awful too. Or if it's not a tanned construction worker returning home from some sunny demolition site sitting next to you, then it's some cologne-bathed smooth-talking flirt trying to impress one of the pretty teens who's covering her nose. Or else you get to sit next to a heavy-breather, a sexual predator with bad teeth who likes to smile a lot; damn you can't help but offer him a stick of gum.
Ah yes, these kinds of people are a pet peeve of mine. I absolutely cannot understand why people would not want to shower, brush their teeth and hair, or wear deodorant. I cannot go without doing these things. Just the other day, my mom was telling us about an employee of hers. She said that she had to send him home because his hygiene is so disgusting. She told him that if he doesn't straighten up and do something about it, then he's going to be fired.
troy, i agree.
my old music teacher was like that.
couldn't bear to be near her
Lets all go to france! yum!
There is some students at my college like that in the unit for blind people. But that's no reason to be like that. Theese students put on clean clothes but that's all. As for me well I just cant manage my hair properly I do wash it but cant always dry it properly or tie it back. My mum ties it up for me. I don't like the taste ofmint and when I use the tooth paste it nips some times. Can you get any other flavours rather than mint?
Ever been around a girl or woman who has her period and use toilet paper as sanitary pads and sit in it all day without changing it and her clothes smell like raw blood? My BF has a friend he talks to and we chill together and this woman whom she let or used to let live with her would do these things. I mean come on now you gotta smell yourself theyre is no reason you can let days and monts and years go by and not smell yourself I just can't do it. Some people especially older folks would tell me you shouldn't get in the tub while on your monthly I tell them I'm sorry I just gotta shower I just, can not, do it!
And this woman her underwear would be so filthy from period blood when she catches herself washing them with a half wash the panties still be stained with stiff blood I mean if my underwear gets like that out the garbage they go and I buy new ones. I just don't see how anyone does it.
iwwww. gross
Wow, that's just...very, very gross.
I'm with you on this one. If something like that happens to me, the underwear are in the garbage, and I'm off to buy new ones.
I agree
Gross! Yeah the girl I mentioned above got both communicated for it and then sent home. She still hasn't made any improvement. Nice girl though. I guess her bf dumpt her because one night they got so close and he could not take it anymore.
Troy
Iw'w'w'w'w'w yuck! Well, all you Zoners'll be pleased to know, I bloody hate bad hygene, bad smells, the lot. If it's, er, my time of the month, I use wet wipes, I have a "lobster pot" bubble bath every other day and a strip wash or shower on the days I don't have a bath, I apply loads of face and hand creams, body mists, perfumes and deodorant so I always smell like raspberries and cream, all day every day and always, use an electric toothbrush and liberal amounts of strong mint toothpaste so I always have absolutely sparkling white teeth. Come on now, it isn't hard to do all of this, especially if you want people to sit next to you on the bus, in the car, restaurant, cantine or wherever, without throwing up because someone smells so bloody awful. I'm sat here now, wearing perfumed deodorant, Oceanus body mist, no bad breath, wearing a fairly clean tracksuit which still smells of mum's washing comfort, and Almond-scented hand and nail rescue treatment cream from Bodyshop.
Hi.
I agree with the rest of the people here. It is not good for somebody to smell bad and in my oppinion as blind people should be more careful how we present ourself out because if we don't smell nice we automatically give out a message saying that blind people don't know how to wash etc to the sited comunity.
In Cyprus i think in general people smell nice. I don't remember when it was the last time i met somebody who didn't smell good.
In England i met people who smelled good and bad especially at college. At university people usually smell nice.
I don't know if it is true but in England it seams like as only women care more of how they smell and use perfumes and things like that. Men use deoderant of cource but not anything else. They might use aftershave after shaving but in England it doesn't seam to exist the word colone. By the way i hope i spell it right. Anyway when i showed to some people my colones they said it was aftershave so i found this strange. For me a colone is the equivalent to the perfume for women. We don't just use it after shaving but after having a shower and when we go out to smell nice.
So i found this strange about England.
I might be wrong so correct me if i am.
Thanks
Nikos
I can't imagine anything more humiliating than being sent home from work or school due to smelling. How can someone let that happen and then not make improvements? There has to be some sort of mental illness in situations like that. I used to know a woman suffering from severe depression who showed up to work every day for a week in the same clothes, which appeared more wrinkled each day, and everyone said her hair looked unwashed. However, I rarely noticed an odor coming from her.
I like using perfumes and such but don't want to overpower anyone with them. So I think the most important thing is just being clean and wearing clean clothes. A little perfume is nice, but you don't want to try to cover up body odor with perfume, because it really doesn't work.
I remember once on my bus going to college that the driver said there is a strong smell of perfumme on this bus. We were having a change over of buses. We have a lady driver and it was the male driver who said there was tomuch perfumme. You see it is all girls on the bus on a Wednesday.
I'm one who wears lotions, creams, perfumes, body sprays, etc., but I'm not one who over indulges on these things. There's definitely a limit on how much is too much. Sometimes, people who use way too much of these products, can be just as annoying as those who don't practice good hygiene.
It's not just us blind folks who need to be careful with our odors, you can be blind, mentally challenged, wheelchair bound, whatever. If you don't wash you're just no good.
Yes, I agree, we should throw all these people into the flames, stinky bastards!
I definitely know someone who has some serious body odor. My friend's dad doesn't shower that often, and if I'm in front of him and he says hello, I just back away. He only uses mouthwash and from what I hear, his teeth are green. Damn, that's nasty. There is bubble gum flavored toothpaste, if anyone doesn't like mint.
Wow. there is no excuse in this day and age for anyone to be unappealing like that. God... I can't stand it when a girl isn't clean. i mean, come on! It's quite obvious what one needs to do to be at least acceptable for Christ's sake.
I agree. How can people feel comfortable with themselves, knowing what they are doing?
The other day, I was talking with one of my friends, and she was telling me about this guy that she knows, and she said that he told her that he only brushes his teeth like twice a month, because whenever he brushes them, his gums bleed, etc. Um, hello? Go to the dentist? They can help you with things like that! I absolutely could not imagine going without brushing my teeth. That's just . . . Well, you get the picture.
Bleeding gums is a sign of gingavitis, (pardon my spelling), or something called pariadontal disease. Both lead to tooth decay and eventually tooth loss.
Yes, we know that, and she told him all about that, and how unhealthy it is, but I guess he doesn't care all that much.
No, he doesn't. The worst part of the situation is he's a diabetic, yet he eats foods high in sugar. Like, if her mom goes and buys a huge bag of candy for Halloween, he'll eat whatever the kids didn't take. She's worried.
Oh...you know someone like that, too? Isn't it sad? Personally, I don't know the guy that my friend told me about, but I guess he's one who's not interested in his health.
oh man you guys are right. I mena house come with showers in them now. their teeth can be brushed twice a day, now the only thing I can say is some people do have odar trouble. For example my step dad, took a shower every day twice a day, but no matter with in two hours he had one. but he went to a Doctor and got a soap that helped a lot. I no also down south where it get so hot, it happen more so but there are things people can do to help them selves
I used to do that brush my teeth so hard it hurt my gums. There was also an advert onthe tv about a girl brushing her teeth so hard it harmed her gums. But there is a certan kind of tooth paste you can use. I also use an electrick too th brush.
Yeah, those electric toothbrushes seem to work better than the manual ones. That's just my take on it. no need to get in to a debate about which is better
I agree. I have an electric one too, and I think they do work better than the regular ones.
At the radio station I go to I no a guy who smells like shit and I turn away from him. Gosh I hate people that smell like shit.
Isn't it horrible?
Yes it is.
I agree that if you're going to go out and be around people you should shower and be presentable. If all you do is stay home all day long and don't really mingle with civilization much anyway, then why bother? As long as you can't smell yourself, or can stand the stench when you do, and there's nobody else around to mind it, then ... whatever, right?
Well, honestly, I take a bath once a week, brush my teeth once every few days and comb my hair every day. This is routine, because honestly, I get so sick and tired of doing all this crap just to be presentable. I am totally blind, and have no sense of smell, so it dosn't bother me. I don't go out, besides appointments and meetings, I just stay at home most of the time. I have never had a period, so that's one less thing I have to worry about.
I guess if it works for you and those few who happen to be around you. I really have nothing else to say.
awww chris don't hold back your true feelings. let em all out for all of us to know!
Wow, that's seriously disgusting. I feel sorry for anyone who is in attendance at the meetings you go to. There isn't enough air freshener in the entire world.
wow, that's freaking nasty. you would think even if you can't smell yourself, you sure would feel nasty! i know i would! i even shower twice a day. i couldn't imagine once a weak! and um, your poor mouth. ewwww. you probably have little nasty things in there having a a smelly war! I just ask one thing of you. don't go around telling everyone this. you give blind people a bad name, or smell or yeah, i'm being mean so must go now. hehehehehe Shea
ps. water and soap, it is your friend. i promise it don't bite!
Uh, just because *you're* totally blind and *you* have no sense of smell doesn't mean that everyone else in the world is like you... And the fact that you only go out for meetings or appointments is disturbing in and of itself. What happened to going out for fun, to go shopping, or hell, just for a walk? Sheesh.
very disturbing.
good night. :D. Post thirty-five, please tell us you're kidding.
Just in case you aren't...you're perfectly happy having teeth that could pass for a riverbottom; insuring your utter, life-long solitude with your exemplary bathing regiments...but your hair gets daily attention? I'm not sure whether to be disturbed or curious.
It sounded like you were using your lack of the sense of smell as an excuse for your lack of daily hygenic practices, poster thirty-five.
No, I'm not kidding. The other excuse I have is laziness. My hair gets attention because if I skip a day without combing my hair, mom would scold me. Honestly, I don't really feel nasty if it's been a week since the last bath. I feel just fine. Also, I'm sorry if you think I'm giving you all a bad name. It doesn't have anything to do with blindness. It's just me that does it.
and your mother doesn't scold you when you don't take a bath? are you kidding? your mom has to tell you when to do stuff like that? God!
i keep the chemists and shampoo manufactureres in business! I spend a lot on things like this. I like trying new shampoos, shower gelss etc.
Just an idea. Maybe she just made this up because maybe a lot of boys on this site kept asking her for relationships. I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to avoid anoying users hahahaha.
No! This is real! Yes, my mom scolds me for not brushing my teeth and taking a bath. She even threatened to ground me from my computer for not doing these things. My mom needs to get a life! Honestly, I only brush my teeth and take baths to stay out of trouble! As far as shampoos and shower jells go, shampoo is shampoo, and shower jell is shower jell. What's the big deal. I don't use any lotions, perfume, makeup, jewlery, or fingernail polish. It's just a waste of my valuable time.
Valuable time? I know you read and stuff on the computer, but don't you have a social life, other than online sites such as this?
If your being serious and not just fucking with us that is completely disgusting and totally unreasonable. I would blame it on being just another screw up blind person, but me thinks you have deeper issues than that!
Seriously? You're 20 years old and are still depending on your mom to tell you when to clean yourself up? Methinks that larger issues than just blindness are at play here... Ugh.
For real! Showering should be a requirement for living in this country! The old commercial used to say "give a hoot, don't pollute! I think tey meant air pollution, too!
After reading this entire thread, I just had to weigh in.
Download87. I don't know anything of you or your life, but methinks depression/social anxiety might be at fault here, much more so than blindness or the lack of sensitive olfactories. And, to be frank, I understand, and won't condemn you for not keeping yourself clean, because I've been in a similar quandry: slept on the same, unwashed sheets for several months, barely left my bed except to use the bathroom, showered weekly, etc. All happened when I was severely depressed, and sincerely couldn't have given a fuck what I looked/smelled like for anyone's sake, especially my own. This was over five years ago, and while I've not been in any bouts as profound as that since, I have found myself doing similar things when the hopelessness/lack of motivation sets in. It's nasty and gross and disgusting, but if one has no physical social life, as some do not, then, there you are. Of course, said lack of friends may be an effect, rather than a cause, of horrible hygene, but, still. If there is no expectation of/hope for change in one's situation, then there is no urge to make one's self presentable to the rest of the world. Just, why bother?
When Iwas in a blindness training center in boston, I had a social life. I went out every night. Now that I'm home, the only social life I have is online and by phone. I don't practice regular hygene because it's complicated, tiresome, and I just don't see a point in doing this. It's personality that counts, not appearance.
Practicing daily hygene is definitely not complicated. It's just one of those things you get in to the habit of doing because it's sociably acceptable. Lack of the sense of smell, does not mean not showering daily doesn't bother other people.
Oh, and i don't mean to sound blunt here, but saying that doing all that is tiring and pointless, indicates laziness and making excuses for doing it. If you hold down a job later in life, you'll have to do it every day because your coworkers may say something.
You know, just because I feel the need to play devil's advocate here, I kind of understand where download87 is coming from. But that doesn't mean I'm completely sympathetic to all of the things she has said. First: Honey, you live in a sighted world. If you're truly so self-absorbed as to think noone will notice the stench coming from you simply because you fail to notice it, you're deluding yourself, big time. Second: As my mother would say, everybody else can see you... it is you who cannot see them. Take that as your mind-set... try to impress the sighted people around you by looking/acting/smelling as they do, and your social life will improve. Were you raised in a school for the blind? It seems as though you're only comfortably social around those others who have little vision, and while I agree that keeping one's self clean can be time-consuming and that some people go way overboard in perfuming every part of their visible body with lotions and sprays and the like, it only appears tiring because you're not accustomed to doing it regularly. If, and when you come into the habit of washing and shaving and so-on on a daily, or even bi-daily schedule, it will grow into simply another bit of your morning routine.
I went to a public school, and I was the only blind one there. I admit I'm lazy. Since I don't go out, hygeen is too time consuming, and not worth it.
nothing anyone says or tries to do will change her mind, she's gotta wanna change for herself.
That's not necessarily true. If she meets someone, online or in real time, who impresses her enough, perhaps whom she may want to date, she might well begin to clean herself up, or generally improve herself.
I've never went on a date, and never had a boyfriend.
If I have to do this crap to be excepted, than I just don't know what these people are thinking. It's just a smell, it's not like the world's coming to an end.
Holy Mother of Christ.
To Poster 61. That's awfully inconsiderate. Do you really have so little respect for the needs and feelings and general social upbringing of others, not to mension yourself, that you propose to live this way for your entire lifetime? How will you interact with the world at large if noone can stand to be more than a few feet from you due to the wreak which comes off the whole of your body, and your disheveled appearance? I've attempted to give you the benefit of the doubt and a possible depression pass, but, really, now. Grow the hell up and begin to think of the reactions of others in less than self-pitying, noone understands poor little me terms. Please. Care a little about your fellow housemates/jobmates. It's common courtesy, for Christ's sakes. Or will you insist on being a melancholic, misanthropic hermit at 20 years of age? Sheesh.
P.S. This last post of yours shows me that your emotional age has remained at about fifteen, and that you're being a selfish little brat. Have you ever made the connection between your lack of a boyfriend/general social skills outside of the virtual, online world, and this lack of cleanliness? I also went to a public school and was the only blind student in my institution until I entered university, but, discounting the depression phase, I have never forgotten to shower.
agree with Julia, grow up.
I, too, was the only blind student in my school. There's just no fucking excuse for you to behave like this at your age.
well, this maybe off topic, but I play with dolls sometimes, watch kid shows on ocasions. I guess I never grown up because I was sheltered all of my life. I didn't have friends till 10 years old. I don't practice regular hygeen because I just dont like it!
Then, that's your parents fault, isn't it?
I guess so, but it's mostly mine. I'm so slow at growing up, I think.
it's not really a question of liking or not liking it. it's something that everyone has to do. I go crazy if I don't take a shower every day.
well, that's true.
Download87. Look up the definition of passive-aggressive. That's how you're coming off right about now. You're attempting to playcate the last few posters by simply agreeing with them and/or spouting whatever you've doubtlessly been told often enough by your mother, and throwing yourself a pity card as you do it. Own up to the fact that you don't practice cleanliness rituals because you don't want to take the time or expend the effort they appear to require. Also, your last two excuses have only cemented my earlier impression: you're a bratty little girl who has been enormously spoiled and enabled by her parents, so thinks the world should cater to her, not the opposite view. Please, I beg that you remove your head from your ass before you move out on your own. God.
During the summer, I don't go out much either, mostly because I don't feel like it and people freak out at blind people in this town.
But still, I shower daily, and keep clean, don't you ever just feel disgusting and nasty?
Whatever your mental age is, I never went a week without bathing.
To each his own I guess, but really, it's really sad that you choose to live like that download87. You're just continuing that sheltered, secluded life of yours. It's not the smell or the sight of you that should make you want to bathe, it's how you feel.
and I'm done now.
and she wants to know if its a good idea for her to live on her own?
at leastshe on't have her mother to tell her when to bathe, wow, how can you live like that download87? no wonder you have few friends.
I agree about it taking time. When I go in the shower it can take half an hour or so. I don't like the taste of mint when cleaning my teeth but I do it. I am going to get my hair cut shorter so I can manage it better. I don't make friends easily so I can understand that, but that dosn't mean that you shouldn't bathe every day. I couldn't go arround like that. I can also understand about depression or cant be bothered with things. I get like that some times but not as bad as I used to be.
I live this way because I'm used to it. I never feel disgusting if I don't take a shower or brush my teeth. I feel fine. Some, including me say my mental age would be about 13 or so. Even though I have the mind of a 13 year old, I excelled in school, and was in national honor society. Even though I'm not very mature, I can still learn.,
Download87, my dog is cleaner than you! That's a shame! If you lived in my house, and refused to take a bath, I'm afraid I'd have to bathe you like I bathe the dog...Tie you up outside, and take a garden hose to you...i mean, if you're gonna live inside, you gotta smell presentable!
if you're still able to learn, then maybe you'll be able to learn to bathe daily like the rest of the world. In doing that, maybe your mom will get off your back about it.
The only way I'll want to keep clean is by rewarding myself afterwards. It may not be the right reason for doing this, but it's a reason. I'll find my own thing to motivate me to keep clean.
And your motivation should be...being presentible for the rest of the world. We blind people have to either be on the same level as sighted people or better and that's just the way it is.
i think you should take showers every day because if you don't, people won't want to be near you
I agree with most sentiments already expressed. Not showering everyday just makes me feel to dirty to stand myself. If considering other people's opinions isn't enough then surely your own is. I also know what it's like to have to be around people who smell bad, and I tell you, they're the sort of people I can't get away from quick enough. Agreed? Thought so.
To poster 79: Wow. Way to be a walking billboard for the NFB. Please, get out of your own head long enough to realize that not everyone is an extrovert, gregarious, and out to please his/her fellow man. Sheesh. Learn to be a bit less stuck on impressing others and proving yourself to the world. Get off the high horse, and remove the ten-ton chip while you're at it. Jerk.
To Download87: That's good enough for me. As long as you clean yourself in some manner, I don't mind what you use, or how or why you accomplish it. If anything, though, when running your fingers through or over your hair, doesn't it begin to feel very greasy and slick after a day or two? If you don't like that sort of sensation on your hands, that might be motivation enough to wash it. Start with something very small, such as washing your hair in the sink. Then, later on in the day, you can rub the rest of your body with a large, soft, soapy sponge. It is perfectly all right to take tiny steps when your objective is to expand your comfort zone. Doing anything more, and doing it quickly, would be to thrust your emotions and your body into a shocked, dizzying state. You would be frightened, overwhelmed, and unsure of how to proceed. We can work on the motives for doing it at another time.
Motivations, rather. Also, I now understand why it seems so difficult. As I implied before, it's an issue of comfort. You are accustomed to doing this, so why change?
I can believe that you excelled in school, but unfortunate as it is, intellectual intelligence is completely unrelated to one's acquisition/understanding of social skills and cues. Think of one's social circle as a measure of emotional intelligence, instead. And, I appreciate that you're mostly calm enough, and possess the self-awareness to acknowledge that this set of habits might need modification. You're not stubbornly refusing to cooperate, listen to reason, and rationally respond. I can work with that.
Yes, a little at a time would help. Also, I just got out of the shower.
Since college starts in the fall, I'll need to bathe more often, and brush my teeth more often, as bad as I hate to!
it'll become part of your daily routine, as you do it. over time, it won't seem like such a chore. Consistency is the key here, and one day, bathing and brushing your teeth will become second-nature. You may anot believe me now but trust me, with time, you'll adjust, seeing as you're attending school. Why it's taking you so long to come to your senses, I don't know, but congratulations for starting to see a glimmer of light.
Well, I never seen a big deal in hygeen anyway.
Well, I've been bathing and brushing my teeth for years, and it's still a chore.
Oh Lord! What about when your teeth get that nasty, fuzzy feeling on them? Doesn't that make you a bit sick, or the bad taste in your mouth? Come on now!
I don't get that fuzzy feeling or bad taste in my mouth.
impossible. plack builds up, and that's what the fuzzy feeling is. or, maybe you're so used to it, you have tuned it out completely. What does your dentist say? and please don't tell me that you don't se them on a regular basis, which is typically every six months.
Hey! I hadn't seen a dentist in 15 years, but when I went just last year, he said I had great teeth! I'd hate to see what hers says!
congratulations, I guess, for seeing the light (even if just a little). I hope with time you realize what a necessity hygene is, and don't see it as a chore, cause in the long run, you're only hurting yourself. you're lucky there're people here who're taking the time to help you when they could be doing other, more productive things, and I hope you extend your thanks to them.
Well, I haven't seen the dentist in 6 years.
Oh my goodness. this whole thing seems like such a joke. The more I read this, the more I'm convinced that this girl is just playing with all of you.
No, I'm not playing.
On the health channel i saw this guy who had very severe perideontol disease and it was so severe that his teeth were taken out. and, i brush 2 times a a day every day. also, i love those body sprays, there are awesom this struck me because even if i take good care of my teeth, my gums blead alittle bit, b ut surprisingly, my dentist told me i have no cavities, and i never had cavities before.
but they said i have very mild gum disease so they told me i needed deep cleaning. is deep cleaning painful?
ut then the next year i did not needed anymore because i was healing pretty well.
i guess, i had it because i used to have braces on and it was kinda hard to clean them.
but i am happy to take them off. oh, download 87, you said you never had your period? i don't believe you. i think you do its just that you don know it.
wel see you
how are you not going to like those bath jells that smell so good.
i already had those nasty braces taken off, i think that caused the problem because they would bother my gums a lot.
they were so close to my gums that they blead.
oh, and for god sake, i never had toothaches either, but according to one of my friends who had it, he said it was so horrible, that he cried.
ohh do you mind download 87 if i asked you somthing?
how come you don't go out a lot.
the only thing i don't use is makeup, only on special occations or meetings with very important people
oh, if you question what SHU ment, that is the name of the university i attend. i am currently attending Seton hall university.
Well, I would know it if I had a period. I know the symptoms, and I haven't been having those. I don't go out allot because I was sheltered as a child, and have few friends in my home town. I have more blind friends than sighted friends. I went to a public school. In elementary school, I was in a class of blind kids. In high school, I was the only blind student.
That was in the the past, but now, it's time for you to think about your future, and ask yourself how you can change it for the better.
IT sounds like you don't havfe a lot of pride in yourself. That's really sad. Cause if you don't like you for you, no one else will like you either. It is of my opinion that in order for people to like you you first must like yourself and take care of yourself.
John
Well-said, john.
Its a little less criptic then Julia's messages. Not that she doesn't have points (just as most have on here), but I figgured my message would sum it up in a nutshell and be a lil easier to read.
John
I agree with you. I have to like myself before others can like me.
SO my point is that you don't like yourself that much right now which prompts you not to be clean and bathed.
We understand that. Now that that problem has been established, how does she go about fixing it? It won't be easy, nor will it be fun.
I don't know. I am not a phycoligy major or anything. I would think depression would probably be the main culprit here. What could've braught that on I don't know. However her not having many friends etc certainly doesn't help.
I will share something personal here but i hope that it might be usefull to some. I have a fobia of fanting. I am just scared of the idea that it might happen to me one day. Sometimes when having a shower i have this phobia because i heard of people fainting in the shower. What i do to keep my mind away from this phobia is to bring my portable radio in the shower and listen to it and i think it helps. I don't do that every time i go to the shower but when the phobia is strong. I even heard of water prooved radios which can go in the bath but never used one of those.
I am not sure if i should share that here but i hope that i might help some who might read it.
I agree with John. Also I would say depression has something to do with not having many friends. I have been threw it to.
Yeh Michel, those board posts say it all.
I worked next to a girl who was way overweight and did not keep clean. Everybody told the boss about how bad she smelled and the boss said she couldn't tell the employee she had a hygiene problem because the boss was afraid of a law suit. Is that stupid or what? Anyway, the girl finally left the job thank god.
Wow, I'm not even sure what to write. This topic has been covered several times, but what I will say is this:
To the poster who said that the "NFB" sounding person should get his/her head out of their ass, let me ask you this.
Do you like people viewing you as incapable, incompetent, and over all, useless?
Well, then, if the answer is no, which I'm quite sure it was, you should observe, that all he was saying was, because of the misconceptions about blind people, it is important to make your capabilities known, and looking as though personal highgeen is impossible for you, gives blind persons in general a bad name. Just as drunks who abuse alcohol give an occasional drink or two, a bad name. Just as being blind is bad, drinking alcohol isn't bad, as long as you can do it with control. Now, my post isn't about alcohol, it's about blindness, so, let's refocus. Point being made is, just because post 79 was saying that she should maintain herself, for appearance sake, doesn't mean he is stuck up or has anything up his ass.
May you always find shade and water,
Amber
gee, So what your saying is, the NFB is like a bunch of drunks! cool. I like the analogy! lol
I'm not really sure what was being said in post 113, but I don't think the comparison of the NFB to a bunch of drunks was it.
Well, I don't think it's fair that we have to go the extra mile to be excepted in life. I don't think it's worth it. If sighted people can't except us for who we are, then tough! So much for them. That's my story.
People can accept something if you are not able to change it. For example your blindness. There is nothing you can do about it. But nobody can accept the fact that you might smell horrible. You chose to do this and it can be changed very easily. You might not be able to smell anything but others can smell it and it is not a pleasant experience. And you complaned that people left the conference when you joined and they couldn't even smell you over the phone. Imagine people's reactions when they are next to you. If you don't want to end up alone you have to do something about it.
Well, I understand, but hygeen can be a big headache sometimes. It's not as easy as one may think.
Yes but it must be more difficult and more hertfull i imagine if people go away from you when they smell you. At list be cleaned and presentable even if you don't like it and enjoy the company and friendship of other people. By smelling nice and look cleen more people will want to be friends with you. So the decision is yours.
To poster 113. I think you place entirely too much importance on your value as a spokesperson for the blind community at large. If I feel incompitent, useless, and generally incapable, I sure as hell wouldn't want to be assumed the opposite. All that does is lead to embarrassing or highly shameful situations, and for an anxious depressive, such only deepen those emotions. As for sighted folks being ignorant enough to judge the slatternly appearance/behavior of a single person as representative of an entire group, grow up. Most people I know are a little more broad-minded. I think this speaks more to the overinflated egos of NFB appostles than to the character flaws of the seeing world. The short response for all of this is, please, get over yourself.
to download87, does it even bother you that you don't have friends, or that people left the conference as soon as you joined? excuse me for being blunt here, but you really need to get your head out of your ass and make a change if you wanna get anywhere in life.
well, I don't like the fact that I don't have a lot of friends, and I can deal with it. As for the conference, I just think that there are more people to talk to, the people who left the conference aren't the only ones. Just to clarify things, I don't blame zone by phone, or the website for this conference incident.
hey download 87, what is your MSN username? you can email me at
Prisy1187@aim.com
I'll give it to you when I know you better.
Just to say, I don't have many friends iether. And also I have been threw it to when I was very depressed I couldn't bring myself to do anything. I am going ot tonight so I will need to go and get ready.
Chockolate girl, it is different when people feel depressed and can't go and have a shower or whatever. But download87 seams to choose to be this way and feels proud of it and says that people should accept her like that. These are two compleetely different things. I can understand your situation but not hers.
Well, It's not something to be proud of, but I'm okay with it.
So you're going to sit back on your heels, and expect the world to cater to your particular brand of cleanliness? SAre you friggin autistic? Do you have Asperger's Syndrome? If not, you're simply extremely lazy, and not willing to change yourself without being prodded, shunned, and the like. That's bloody pathetic. Grow a social conscience, please.
what is asperger's syndrome anyway!
what is asperger's syndrome anyway!
It's a form of autism.
I don't think autism has anything to do with bad hyjeen.
Download 87, you made the comment that you shouldn't have to go the extra mile to be accepted in life and then said that sighted people should....I hate to be the one to break it to you but you are gonna find out that sighted or blind, people are not going to accept you if you can't even be bothered to shower and brush your teeth.
You also said that hygene can be a headache sometimes and not as easy as we all think.....um, yes, it is exactly as easy as we all think. We all do these things on a regular basis.
Since you are getting ready to go to university, you really need to grow up.
uh, ok?
Wow thats it? Hmmm I would have thought you would had mor to say.
I can understand needing to take a bath, but every day and twice a day is way too much for my needs. I don't feel any different whether I'm clean or dirty. The only difference is the feeling that I got the bath over with. The reason for laughing on zone by phone is that I really didn't have anything to say, or didn't know what to say in front of a group talking about my highgeen all at once. It just came as a surprise.
I remember we discussed this on the zone phone, and you really need a shower and brush your teeth, and use deoderant and some nice perfume. Blind or sighted it doesn't matter you should always have a clean body and clothes. come on, you can do it!!!
yah, i were nice body sprey every day. wether i shower in the morning or night.
you can bathe everyday. I do it. There was a brief time where I got in a little rut and didn't shower everyday and brush my teeth and I was approached about it. I decided I didn't like how I was living so I decided to change it and I've never felt better. I used to feel like well why do it if somebody can do it for me? It's easier to let others do for you but I learned that in the long run, it may not be easier doing it yourself but you sure have a better peace of mind about yourself knowing you can cook and clean all by yourself. Now, I do it like it's nothing I don't even think about it and you can do it too.
Kerby
Download, blind people don't hav e to go the extra mile to keep themselves presentable. Bathing and brushing teeth isn't going the extra mile, it's something that most people, blind or sighted, do.
And if it is true that blind people have stronger feeling of smell they are the first to notice that you didn't bath. It is unfortunate that you don't have sence of smell but it is not for all blind people like that.
Well, bathing every day is way too much work for my needs, but I think every other day is better.
What do you mean way too much for your needs. You keep bringing up your needs. What are your needs?
Perhaps every two days shouldn't be bad during the Winter but during the Summer when we get hot every day is a need i think.
Kenny, what I'm talking about is the need to be presentable. I don't believe that I have to bathe every day just to be excepted. I don't even know anyone in my family that bathes every day.
I don't know anyone who doesn't bathe everyday in my family.
Kerby
Thats a family full of pigs!
I agree. You shouldn't have to listen to your family, but the rest of society. The rest of society does it, not to be accepted, but to feel good.
O. So that's why they bathe every day. Well, I don't feel any better or worse after a bath than before.
Well, they also bathe to look more presentable, but everyone does that. And, if ou took a bath properly, I am sure you would get cleaner and feel better.
I have to bathe everyday because I feel all sticky and miserable if I don't bathe and when I'm clean, it's a good feeling.
Same here.
Take a bath propperly? What do you mean? Taking a bath is taking a bath. That also goes with brushing teeth. Just the fact that it's done counts. I could care less about how highgeen is done but just that I do it.
well that's a weird philosophy isn't it?
Well, maybe you need to be taught how to take a bath and brush teeth.
DL87, you do realize you're giving those from Oklahoma a real bad name, right?
shit, giving blind people in general a bad name
No. Well, I know how to take a bath and brush teeth, but I can do it how I choose to, such as taking short cuts such as just wetting the toothbrush and brushing a few times, and that's it. It's just the fact that it's done, and I really don't want to go into spacifics of how it's done, and the right way and the wrong way. Highgeen is highgeen.
you mean to tell us you don't even use toothpaste?
So on one hand you say you don't care about "how" highgeen is done as long as you get it done, but you also claim it's not important to you, and that you only do it once a week.
?
yeah you totally contradict yourself.
My goodness, sweetheart. If you're just using water on a toothbrush, and running it over your teeth a couple of times, that most certainly is not hygiene. That does absolutely nothing. You need toothpaste, and, personally, mouthwash, along with floss, to clean your teeth. Even if you choose not to use mouthwash and floss, you still need toothpaste. You have bacteria, plaque, and tartar building up on your teeth, and you need toothpaste to clean all that stuff away. If you dont' start properly caring for your mouth, you're going to get gum disease. Did you know that gum disease can cause other problems too? It can cause kidney failure, and other problems with a whole bunch of your other organs. Is that what you want? Your body is just going to start deteriorating fast. You may think that taking care of your teeth isn't a big deal, but it is.
Sheesh! Spacifics! I only use toothpaste when I want to. I am taking shortcuts like that to take less time,and so mom would think I brushed my teeth.
"specifics" Are you serious? Of course we're getting specific. This is serious, but no one here can obviously convince you of that. You do what you want to do. It's your choice, but you're going to be the one who suffers the consequences. There are no "shortcuts" when it comes to your health and well-being. But again, it's your life. Just remember, if you don't start taking better care of yourself, you'll be shortening that life dramatically.
I already know that, and it's okay with me.
Wow. Well then, it sounds like you also need some serious therapy, because from what you just said, you make it sound like you don't care about life and living. You really don't care for yourself and for your life?
Not really. See the suicide topic for more in depth details. This board is found under let's talk.
Ah, well, I haven't read that particular board, so that's why I didnt' know. Let me just say, though, that you really should talk to someone, but that's all I'll say here, considering this board topic is about hygiene.
Hey, Download, those are shortcuts for ending your life. That isn't hygiene. In fact, you might be doing more dammage to your teeth by making them brittle. Just water and toothpaste? Well, that might be doing more dammage than not brushing them at all.4
I really don't see how it would do damage. Besides, I like shortcuts.
Shortcuts could cause pain. It can do dammage because it isn't cleaning your teeth, it's putting stress on them from water and toothbrush. Those, I repeat aren't shortcuts.
Ok?
You don't seem to care. What can I do to help you to care?
I've given you ideas. I have been nice, and been blunt. I have told you how I believe you should do things, and what you need to succeed. I have told you that it isn't just blind people that have to be clean. What else is there that I can do?
unfortunately I don't think there's anything we can do when somebody doesn't want to do something they don't want to do something. It's as simple as that and we can talk until we're blue in the face but we'd just be wasting our time. We always want to help because we're human but we can only do so much. This thing sounds like it's much deeper than just a hugene problem anyway.
Kerby
oh my fucking god, I just took a shower half way through reading this and now want to shower again. I have to say it has nothing to do with blind or sited. It doesnt have to do with schooling I showered every day during school years i only dropped off during college cause I was a bit depressed most of the time but now i shower every other day at least if not more often I am working mty way up to once a day i havent been to a dentist for a while because i dont have ensurance that covers dental but want too
ok...i shower at least once every other day...once every two days or once a day. I shower and i feel good. I'm depressed right now and i wake up in a mood at times. And, this sounds weird, but taking a shower is relaxing for me. I feel clean and it makes me feel better.
they say showers are a great strees reliever. I think warm water activates some chemical in your brain, Dopamine I think it is and that's what makes you feel good and I believe that because I feel great after showering.
Kerby
Makes you feel good? Huh. It's just a chore in my opinion. I do love water, and I love to swim though.
And you say you only take baths, baths don't do the job, especially for someone like you who doesn't practce good hygene, ug, your bathing in your own filth, and you say you don't have your period now. Dude, you should get that checked out, and question: when you finally do get it, please tell me your gonna at least shower then, cuz that would be sooo nasty. Ug I wanna take a shower now after reading this. Your a disgrace to blind people, I wonder if sighted people who know you look at you and wonder "oh, wow, i wonder if all blind people are like that or something"...I don't feel rite if i don't shower once a day. I remember when i went camping on this island once, and we couldn't have a propper shower for four days, I was soooo upset? lol Anyways, I hope to the god above us, that you'll finally grow up and take care of your self. If your so depressed, seek help man. Deal with your other issues and hopefully you'll learn that hygene should be as natural to you as breathing. Cuz that's the way it should be.
Chore? Oh my god.
Chores to me are like cleaning and taking out the trash.
Perhaps if you start out slow like take one good shower a week, then gradually, two, three and hopefully it becomes something you do everyday.
Oh cool can you please come clean my room? Haha!
Chore. Wow! That is bad. And, a lack of a period is normal for Download and girls like her because they don't have any estrogen going into their systems from a lack of doing a thing. Get off your ass, sweat, shower, eat, sleep, and you'll find your periode return.
I think a bath and a shower are the same thing. I've been bathing for years, and it's like a chore because I have to do it, It's something I have to remember to do, and it takes a long time. There are so many steps to the process of bathing, and it'll just wear me out when I'm done. It takes about an hour, give or take a few, to get undressed, get in the bathtub and adjust the water temperature, wash, wash hair, rinse , rinse hair, dry off, get dressed, and comb hair. See what I mean? It's a whole list of steps to follow.
wow, are you one of those fat girls who sit on their ass all day too and do nothing cuz your so lazy? Lord help you child.
Damn, some people on this earth. Showering, and brushing, your, fucking, teeth, should, not, be, a chore! Why don't you get it, do you care if people think you smell bad, look bad? Anything?
And, it shouldn't take you that long if you're not dirty.
Dirty or not, it does.
Good grief! Showering and such are things I do without really thinking about it. Honestly, it's not difficult, pour shampoo on hair, rub it in, rinse out hair, etc., etc. Seems pretty straightforward, and essential, to me. If I showed up to work wearing dirty clothes and not showering for days, I'd be sent home and rightly so.
Oh, yeah, I agree. Download, it isn't that bad. What would you be doing anyway, sitting on your ass?
I don't know. I think of showering a chore because of the steps involved, you have to know the right way and wrong way to shower, and it just takes a long time.
If you want a long, relaxing shower, it can take a long time. But it doesn't have to. I've known some people who take as little as five minutes, and othes who take a half hour on a regular basis.
Lou
as i said further before in this topick having a small radio in the bathroom will make your experience more pleasant. Especially if it takes you that long a radio will make your time to seam to go quicker. There cheep small radios that work with bateris that you can use.
Good luck.
Thanks. I'll try that.
Good, i hope you do.
If you try to stop thinking about all the "steps" when taking a bath, it might be a bit more relaxing.
Yeah, it's not a step and next step thing. It should be automatic just like walking and talking on the phone.
I've bathed for years, and it's never automatic.
However, you've never made a routine out of it.
I agree with the poster about getting a radio to put in the bathroom. I used to have one but it broke.
Well sins it broke, why don't you just sing to replace the radio.
Good idea. I do it sometimes and when i come out all the windows are broken lol.
Yeah, and my voice smashes anything it comes in contact with. LOL. Me with my accent singing?
You peple are crazy! Haha!
I do sing in the shower some times.
I should weigh in here. I've been known to skip a day or so not showering in the winter, summer it's at least once if not twice, and espeicall if my period's around. I wish you luck.
You wish this girl luck?
believe me download87, showering feels so good. really.and even better with music and singing. and all those good smelling things...
and you shouldn't take it as a step and next step thing, it's not like someone is there to test you and judge how you do it, what you use and how long it takes. everyone have their ways to do that and use whatever they like. it just makes you clean, presentable, it's relaxing too and feels good.
and one question, if you don't go out or have friends or anything, what's so valuable about your time that makes showering a waste?
I was wondering that myself.
and about not having your periods, you should have that checked, because there could be something wrong.
even if i can't imagine if you had that and didn't shower even then...
i remember in middle school there was this girl who smelled like puke. that was so fuckin nasty i'm feeling sick even thinking of it. i think puke is one of the worst smells
If I ever start forgetting what the rammifications of not showering can be, all I need to do is climb aboard a city bus at some point. There are bound to be at least a few passengers who have foregone showering for a day or three. There have been times after riding a bus when the first thing I did upon getting home was to take a shower!
Yes, I have noticed that when getting on a bus also. Especially the people who just got out of the bar.
damn. some people on the bus come sitting next to you and then you start smelling onions for some reason... and some of them smell like they bathed in rotten food
and the ones that smell the worst always sit next to you for some reason. Man I got on a bus one morning last week it was 6:00 in the morning for crying out loud and this one lady got on reaking of booze. How can anybody drink like that first thing in the morning? She didn't have her fair either which was no surprise.
Kerby
When i am in England i travel on the train very often and i never had anyone who was sitting next to me and smelled horrible. Maybe i am lucky lol.
Nikos my friend, you haven't really been initiated into mass transit until that has happened to you. Maybe its different in other countries, butit seems smelly people are the norm on busses in the U.S. Why is it that the smely ones board the bus on the hottest and most humid days of the summer, though?
Lou
When i was at college in Cyprus to learn English we had a few chineese people in my class and most of them used to smell of garlick. I am not sure if there are in the bad hygin category or if tis was happening because of the food they eat.
I heard that if people eat garlick and things like that every day the smell comes out of their skeem or something. I heard that even after cleaning or having a shower they still smell.
Iwww. That is grose. Now, to be honest, I don't care about looks but I would feel soooo embarrassed to go outside with someone who smells badly or has greezy hair. I knew someone once who had greezy hair and he always leant his head against the wall while talking on the phone and ... well the wall looked a bit darker where his head lay - it still looks that way after many years. Grose. I hate gossipping usually but ... this is ust disgusting.
I have greezy hair and it has to be washed every day. I don't always do it but I should.
I only wish her luck o getting this fixed, I knew a woman's mother in law who wouldn't shower for at least a month and saw nothing wrong with that. Plu she was very overweight and had deabetes as well. I pity you dl and I thinkyou're appy with that, enjoy it.
eeewww. over a month? that's just extremely disgusting. can't imagine the smell... and she must have creepy living things all over her after a month...
That is...How can you live with yourself not taking regular showers.
I agree it is disgusting.
Her daughter in law, because of how he was raised, used to make her husband shower if he wanted sex, otherwise she wouldn't. dl you must have an odor around your vagina as well, the sides of it produce some type of sweat stuff that needs to be cleaned out and god not doing anything about it? excuse me, I'm going out in the rain now to cleanse myself.
Iwww. That's ust ... people like that might get lonely someday. Yuck.
someday? looks like the person in question is very lonely already. and it might not only depend on the fact that she doesn't bathe, but that's an important factor i would think. i don't think she's stupid or anything, and i think if she would bathe and just set foot out of her house she could make some friends
Yeah true. But ... I mean I would feel bad and disgusting if I wouldn't bath or shower. Iwwww.
The problem is she's parroting us what we want to hear, so she may always smell disgustingly body grungy and sick. Hmm what's that song by Lennard skinner? Oh yeah, that smell.
Iwww weird
Well, as far as relaxing goes, I tried singing in the shower, and it helps some. I really don't feel much diffrent after taking a shower. I'm not alone here. My sister doesn't take a shower but once a week.
She's taking after you, and it's your job to set an example for her as you're the older sibling.
It's okay with my parents if she takes a shower once a week.
It's okay with your parents if she takes a shower once a week, yet they get on your back because you do the same thing? where's the sense in that?
I don't think that's true because that just doesn't add up. No sensable parents are gonna let you live your life that way in their household. I know when I grew up, we were required to shower at least once everyday and I still do to this day because it's just what you do.
Kerby
I'm sure they don't mind the younger sister not taking a shower more than once a week because, let's face it, younger sister hasn't reached puberty, and won't for a few years yet. So she hasn't started to grow the hair that traps the sweat, her oil glands haven't gone into overdrive, and therefore, her hair and face and so-on won't be nearly as greasy, and her body won't produce half the smell that the older sister's would. Just my humble opinion, however.
I hate blaming the parents but they do need to take some responsibility. You shouldn't follow your sister's example for the reasons stated in the previous post.
Well, I don't think it's fair for my sister to only take baths but once a week, but I have to every day. That's another reason why I think my parent's are playing favoritisms.
If you let this continue, I assume here that the sister is fully sighted. If so, and she goes for a job interview, one look and the girl will be crying when someone glares at the odor coming from her. Do you love your sister? do something about it. then.
Grrrr parents who play favouritism. I do not like them. Maybe you should talk to them and to your sister.
Maybe the reason they are getting on to you is because they know you are capable. Maybe you should have a talk with them and tell them how you feel. They should listen to what you have to say and you should do the same.
My sister does some not so nice things and disobeys the rules, and she just gets by with it. She is sighted.
As I implied earlier, this is just another excuse for download87 to not do what she doesn't want to do. Your parents are not playing favorites at all... they're telling you to take showers every day for your own freaking good. They will do the same for your younger sister once she reaches puberty, and starts having the same amount of body odor and acne and greasy hair which I'm sure you have. Stop blaming everyone else for what is clearly your unwillingness to bestir yourself from your lazy ass, and take some active part in the affairs of the world. What a loser.
Julia need I remind you how you felt when you were getting picked on when the whole social security and living with your parents got put on the zone for everyone to see? Have a heart and stop being just another judgmental cunt, if you please.
Siobhan. May I remind you that, even during that unfortunate span of my life, I never forgot to shower, brush my teeth, etc? This is not being judgemental (aside from the loser comment which was unnecessary), this is throwing common sense and experience in the face of someone who's not mature enough to realize that she. is. part. of. this. problem. and needs to fix it, pronto. Most of her issue is an attitude which must be changed before she can start improving her living arrangements, and so far, she's been spoiled, coddled, and told that nothing is her fault, or ignored what has been given to her as responsibilities. I have offered compassion verging on empathy, and since that has provided nothing, my patience has been exhausted. Now, I can only throw out statements such as those above to demonstrate my frustration and intolerance of this continued behavior and apparent lack of confidence and innitiative.
Katie. It is your responsibility to punish your sister accordingly for whatever she has done. Or, simply tolerate what many older siblings figure out over the years: you will always be blamed before your younger brother/sister for some mess which neither parent has created.
Well, have a shower every morning and brush myy teeth every day, unless I can't get the toothpaste out because the tube is blocked.
Dang! Swetting more, and excess oil from the oil glands suck! If only there was a way to prevent the sweating and excess oil and all that crap!
It's part of growing up, and if you couldn't sweat, you would die from elevated body temperature. Daily showering is the only way to manage it and not have people gossiping about you behind your back.
Well, I wish there was a way to prevent teeth from being dirty, but the only way to do that is to not eat, which I love to eat.
Well, too bad, so sad.
It is true that people don't need to shower as much when they are younger. I think it is under 12. Well of course it depends when you develope. I was 10 and a half for example.
Before you said you didn't notice the difference if you were clean or not. Now you seem to realize. Good. Now the next step is doing something about it.
I think the reason download87 is stuck to her chair has nothing to do with her addiction to this site...YUCK!
A person still needs to brush their teeth, even if they choose not to eat. Food isnt' the only thing that causes your teeth to be dirty. Bacteria grows naturally in your mouth, and it must be cleaned away.
Aw, dang!
I alsowash my hair every 2 or 3 days.
download I use a CD Player, one of those boom boxes with bateries and I find myself in there for an hour or so. it might seem a little long, but I just like to soak and listen to music. it always relaxes me. and helps me with stress. try listening to a Cd or the radeio and see if that works.
DL87, when puberty starts, it is necessary to shower more, and the attitude of your parents towards your sister may change when she reaches puberty. Also, there are many places where people live which don't have showers. These include some flats, and some council houses.
dl87, i was sheltered as a child as well, but my parents still required me to take a shower and brush my teeth every day. i do not wash my hair every day anymore because it is so long and brushing my wet hair is such a chore because even though i use conditioner, after a shower, my wet hair is extremely tangled. it takes me 20 or 30 minutes to brush through it because of all of the tangles, despite the use of conditioner. i do, however, wash my hair every other day or so. i brush and floss my teeth twice a day.
oh and by the way, i also use a sonic care toothbrush. those things clean the teeth extraordinarily well. does anyone know what kind of toothpaste that i can use for extremely sensative teeth?
oh yes and the shampoo that i use if i can afford it is really really good. hen i can afford it, i use a shampoo and conditioner called biolage. i have used some brands that r sold in the stores as well and none of them work as well is biolage.
Somanea, have you tried Sensodyne? It's a toothpaste that is supposed to be specially designed for those who have sensitive teeth.
oooh. no i haven't. my teeth r sensative when i floss as well. i wish i knew y this is. my enamel is perfectly hard. i do have a large cavity in the back tooth on the top right side from drinking too many sodas, but it is not bothering me. i have kicked the soda drinking habbit habbit at least 2 weeks ago because i want to have optimum health. my immune system is really strong already.
Do you have regular checkups with your dentist? They can give you more of an explanation of hwy your teeth and gums are so sensitive. It's good that you do brush and floss, though. How about mouthwash? Do you use it? I do all three. As for the toothpaste, next time you and/or your husband does the grocery shopping, try a tube of the sensodyne, and see if it helps.
I use sensodine, and I find it quite nippy. Maybe I use toomuch. I don't know.
yes. i use mouth wash when i can afford it. my gums bleed a tiny bit when i floss, but i figured that is because i never flossed as a child. i can remember when my sister and i drove to school, she would always tell me that my breath smelled bad even though i brushed my teeth. i found out y this is. when i first started flossing, i flossed the back teeth on the bottom right side first. when i pulled the floss out, this really bad smell would be on the floss. so ever since then, i have been flossing very regularly because i do not want my breath to smell like that.
and i do not have a dentist. i cannot get dental insurance either.
If you floss regularly, but your gums still bleed, you really should see a dentist. You can have some serious problems. It's normal for gums to bleed if you're just starting out with floss, but after a few uses, your gums get used to it, and the bleeding should stop. I know that dental insurance is hard to come by, but there are a few dentists out there that will accept payments. You should call around and see if you can find one in your area. I'd definitely try. I'm not a dentist or anything, but it sounds like you may have some problems that should really be checked out. If left untreated, it'll just get much worse for you.
sounds like the beginnings of gingavitis. I know JAWS won't pronounce that one right.
well they dont bleed as much anymore as they did when i first started to floss.
But even if they're bleeding just a little, you need to have them checked.
yeah i know. they dont really hurt though and they r not swollen either.
if you really dont like getting clean or anything like that, maybe you should get something that will make you want to do it, like those cool foaming soap for your body that they have,, you can bathe while enjoying yourself and playing with the bubbles of the soap or something, just an idea.
When I was younger, I used to be lazy and didn't want to take a bath and brush my teeth and all that. When I was about ten or eleven, some girl started making fun of me, saying I was stinky and needed a shower. At the time, I did care about it, 'cuz it hurt my feelings. So, I started making it a habit to take a shower everyday. It works best if you have a daily routine. I get up, get dressed, put on deodorant, brush my teeth, comb my hair and go dn what I need to do. At night, I take a bath/shower, put on pajamas, and brush my teeth again. If you're gonna start going to college, you're forced to have a specific time you wake up in the morning, and a time when you go to bed so you can be well rested for school. So, all you do is incorporate all the hygenic stuff in to your daily routine. You may even want to set reminders for yourself to do it. When I'm hav`ng a bath or shower, I put a battery-operated stereo on my counter and play it while I have my bath or shower so that it doesn't seem so long and lonely. Sometimes I play a talking book, turn up th TV a little higher so I can hear my showwhile I shower, stuff like that.
wow...I'm not really pulling this out of the shitter, but christ on an animal cracker...disgusting! DL87. Here's my image of you
you're probably not tall. 5-5 at the very most. You say you love to eat, and well, to be quite honest, you don't move. You've got to be a fucking whale! Is that really the lifestyle you like? Is showering or bathing so difficult because you have to manipulate your soap through the folds of...well...not goodness... you sound disgusting. you really do. I hope you're better at cleaning yourself, because you sound like you really need it. Not to take away from you for trying, but seriously, I know I couldn't stand 2 days without a shower. If I don't take at least 1 shower a day, brush my teeth, floss, and apply deodorent at 2 or more times a day, I'd feel like a disgusting fatbody private pile...well, went for the FMJ reference...but still! Also, radio in the shower can rock. I wake up at 5:00 a.m. and so I've got a little while to take a shower. wow...I'm rambling...and I'm still disgusted...
It could be a orm of depression or something. I know from experince, some times I go for a few days with out getting dresed or anything. It is because of depresio.I don't do it very offten now not get dressed but some times.
This post is reminding me of the smell at certain conventions...Haha
It reminds me of school.
ug!!! I can't go more than two days with out a shower. I take one every night or every other night depending on how tired I am, but I always do it.I once had a boyfriend who never took a shower or changed his clothes. I brush my teeth twice a day. I can't stand the plack on my teeth or that taste in my mouth. Because I have braces, I really have to try extra hard to keep my teeth clean. I will admit, I haven't flaussed in a while. For those who have braces and flausse, how do you do it? I really do need to get back in the habit of flaussing again.
Leslie
I had a dentist appointment on Wednesday, I needed 2 jags for decay.
I agree that is so important. Since I practice on client's I would hope they take care of them selves or I would have to tell them to take a shower next time or I wouldn't see them.
i don't understand it, you can sit next to people and they could smell so bad.
only at the weekend, i was next to this woman on a ride... she smelt like an infected hospital ward... was just iwwww!. what gets me even more, people either tend to not notice, or not care. even when you're in the supermarket or the train station or something and you get smells of unwashed boddies, or my pet hate is fish... can't stand that on a person
wow, I know Garrett is no longer on the zone, thank God; but that was soooo mean! he certainly got kicks out of bullying other people when, if he actually could read properly, he'd know they had other problems. But ah no, that just adds fuel to the fire for him!
anywya .. ..
i think she is not serious, i think she is fooling around by saying that because she doesn't want to be bothered
this reminds me of when i was 12.
its like this highly plastered man who sits on the buss and right at the bus stop in elizabeth where mom had to get on to go home, everyone had to clear the buss because the man shit himself. and mom got very mad because she couldn't get home and she had to wait for the buss for a few hours. how the hell can a highly plastered drunk get on a buss and embarras the whole public.
if you want to drink and just have your extra boos, then stay home, sheesh. that's one of my pet peeves
Wow!! Steps? Right and wrong way to shower? We're not talking about bathing acrobatics here! I am a shower diva, and most times will not leave my house without one. it's a daily and sometimes twice daily part of my routine, Just like eating or sleeping. If I didn't shower, I'd feel pretty depressed too!! If you don't want to take a bath, don't- take a shower instead. They take less time, and personally, I don't like the thought of sitting in bathwater. Gross!! This is a personal choice though. Either way, grab some body wash, shampoo and conditioner, razor, shaving cream (or get a rayzor with built in shave bars), and a towel and take a flippin' shower!! Afterwords, use some body lotion, and deodorant. Don't forget to wash your face, this can be done once a day depending on your skin tone. I haven't missed a day of showering since my sophomore year of high school, and that was in 1994! Personal hyigene is really not that complicated! soon enough, it'll be second nature to you, and you'll wonder how you ever missed out on it. I feel sorry for people in poor countries who don't have the luxury of hot water. But even then, they make the most of the water they do have!! I can't believe you are over the age of 13, and need to be told to shower. Just because your family doesn't shower regularly doesn't mean you need to follow in their footsteps. Hyigene isn't going the extra mile, it's just a part of a person's daily routine like others have posted. Okay, after reading this disturbing thread, I'm gonna take a shower. Hello Bath and Bodyworks!!
Okay, I'm back. The whole hyigene routine took about 15 minutes tops. This included: washing my face, showering, drying off, applying lotion and deodorant, putting on pj's and brushing my teeth. The only thing I did not do was wash my hair, cause I did that earlier and this was shower No. 2 for the day. If I had, it would have added maybe another two minutes or so. Audio Addict, if you want to save time, multi task. Like, let your shampoo sit on your hair for a minute while you wash your body. This is better for your hair anyway as it will allow the cleansers in the shampoo to take affect.
one thing that occured to me today, was the lack of hygene among shop workers. today for instance, i showered, cleaned my teeth, and even shaved before going out to get milk etc. the person who helped me in the local store clearly had not showered. she smelt disgusting. yes i have run down the shops without showering before, but i make sure i at least spray with dioderant and chew gum before i go. though if i was at work, i'd make sure i was well washed and well groomed everyday i was at the office. hmm.
Smoky Bear, obviously, you make an effort to be presentable. Slipping out the door minus a shower once in awhile isn't a big deal. I used to go to work in college sometimes without one. I'd spray on some perfume, brush my teeth and put on some deodorant. I only worked two hours per day most days, and as soon as I got home, my butt was in the shower. I'm more concerned about Audio Addict here. Honey, please please try to make this a regular part of your routine! Even if you don't have any major plans for the day, you'll at least feel better that if you leave the house, or have company, that you'll look and smell good.
i, for instace today, have no plans to leave the house, but every weekday, i make a point of having a shower etc, maybe at the weekend i won't, but depends what i'm doing.
lol, i'm still reading this thread. hmmm.
to the post about the man on the bus, i've had that with someone next to me. unfortunately we were on a school trip and we had to get off at a lay by.
hmmm, as for smoky's post, it makes me wonder if some people that go to work and know they are going to interact with people just don't care. i've had plenty of experiences in that, too. mainly in places like sainsbury's.
as for the final post, i've done work at my colledge too with out showering sometimes. i really don't see the big deal if you're only going to do maybe some work in your dorm or something
I knew this one guy once who apparently took the bus regularly, as I used to. He smelled as if he hadn't brushed his teeth in a week, and when he stood up, the seat smelled of....something really nasty. I don't even want to think of what it was. It's those times that I honestly want to buy them a toothbrush, or at least a pack of gum. I wouldn't even expect compensation. These things really aren't all that hard to manage, honestly.
I know from experience that you usually can't smell your own odors very well, but believe me: Other people can.
Okay, I'll admit it, I hate public transportation for the aforementioned hyigene issues. I'll take the bus, if I ever have to, but I'm always really afraid that I'll get off at work, and reek like the stinko person I just sat next too. EEEw Gross!!
Concerns warranted, though that never kept me from riding the buses / trains.
Here's the other thing though: Consider what else in life makes your eyes water, your nose run, etc. I can think of several things, all of them being chemical substances your body is *trying to get rid of!*
So maybe this hygiene issue isn't appearance but actual public health. Though when I said this at work once the Hr director promptly gave a speech in fuzzy new speak which accomplished two things: showed me how confusing and nonsensical someone can be while appearing confident, and made me thirsty for a beer.
Is it possible that a person's bad hygiene could cause health problems?
I'm happy to be gay! you disgusting females with fishy blood filled oraphuses can keep it. ewwww!
There is things I don't like doing like getting my hair cut and coloured. I don't shower exactly every day maybe every second day. I didn't like having perfume as a child but I do now.
God I love showers. showers and being clean, perfume lotion clean brushed teeth and hair and deoderent. All make me feel so much better, sexier even. I wouldn't feel desirable if I didn't take at least one shower every day, and wouldn't expect other people to want to be around me either.
A shower makes me want to sleep again. I thought it was supposed to wake you up. Maybe it is the medication I take though.
Yeah, I hate it when I have company, like my mom or sister, and I haven't showered. I'll second post 298. I feel so much better after a shower!! Plus, I have a small apartment, and it always smells good when I'm out of the shower!
To poster 295. Yes, it can cause health problems. If a person has bad hygine it is most likely they have dirty bedding and mites thrive in places like that. Mite bites are called scabies. They are little sores all over the body. Also, there is a condition called impetigo, and these are pus filled sores and you would need a doctor to prescribe medication for this. I am sure there are more infections but that is all I can remember from my anatomy class.
This should make people want to shower!!!
Hey when medical science comes up with saying B.O. spreads communicable diseases that's gonna be *awesome* at the workplace where we currently would have to be nice to B.O person, who in my experience has never been blind, these bords aside, except when the lights are off.
But yeah, once the health nazis come out and say B.O. spreads communicable diseases, we're gonna have us a cat fight between the thenthitives and the health nazis. I can't decide whether I'd scalp tickets to it, or just drink some beers and get me a front row seat and watch the show.
I also love the feeling of having just got out of the shower. I still don't think it's necessary to have more than one per day, though. Sometimes, in the summer, when I know I'll be sweating a lot during the day, I'll have my shower in the evenings instead.
Some of the food you eat actually can affect how you smell, even if you brush your teeth and/or chew gum after eating.
Yes, some food exits through the poors in your skin.
I agree with the last 2 posters.
However, many times, a good scrub down is in order.
For those of us who like eating the food that comes out your pores after eating, (and yes, this is definitely me too), if you soak in a bath with baking soda for a little while, that really helps. I've done it before.
It doesn't stay on your skin?
Soaking in a bath with some baking soda is also supposed to be a great detoxifier and moisturizer.
Margorp, no, it doesn't stay on your skin, as long as you only put a little bit in, or if you have a little rinse before you dry off.
I only take two showers a day if I'm not feeling well, and need to relax, or if I've just worked out, and I hadn't already showered afterwords. Yeah, I love that just-showered feeling too!
Yup it's a great feeling.
I love taking a shower and I like the way it makes me feel after it.
Bathing is all right too!
Yes, sometimes I just like to relax in a nice bath. Of course, if I'm really dirty, which isn't usually the case, I'll just have a shower. Sometimes, on those really cold winter days, I'll have a shower in the morning, and relax in a hot bath in the evening.
I like relaxing in the bath to. Also it helps if I have mmy monthly cramps.
Yeah. It helps for that too.
Yes, a bath sure did me good when I was having my monthlys.
The cramps were pretty bad. I also used the heating pad after my soke in the tub.
The heating pad is my best friend.
I've always thought that in a bath, you are just soaking in your own juices so to speak. Guess I'm missing something.
A shower is probably preferable if you need a good cleaning. There once was a time when some families had to use the same bathwater. They had one bath a week, the father went first, then the mother, and then the kids. It's obvious they paid less attention to sanitation than we do today.
post 319,
that's a very good observasion.
i'm sure i'll be able to find an artickle that can back that statement up.
O yeah. A shower is definitely cleaner than a bath. I always feel cleaner when I get out of the shower rather than the bath. I just like it for relaxing purposes.
Ah I see.
I mostly us the bath for relaxing to.
I detest bad hygiene, but I understand some folks may have let themselves go because of problems like depression and substance abuse. Some new moms are so caught up in the baby they forget themselves. I was embarrassed when I spent time in Mr Spongebob's home country, went to get my hair done, and was told it was "lank, greasy". Bleah...Our daughter was very young, and I was concentrating on her care, not mine. Mine improved shortly thereafter.
I live in a cold weather state, where you would seriously have to work up a sweat to justify showers every day. That said, I have a pet peeve with regard to hygiene: perfume. Yes, perfume. I hate hate hate it. Some men's colognes I think are alcohol based and unless the guy bathes in it not that bad, but I suspect a lot of women's perfumes are oil based and yecccchhhhhh. I think perfume is some folks' substitute for hygiene. It is awful. I am prone to migraines and this aggravates it. I have a nice young woman who comes in to work one hour before I leave, and her perfume absolutely needs to go. I have been grateful when I have had an upper respiratory infection where I couldn't smell her, even had pneumonia. Obviously couldn't smell her then, 'cause I had to be at home for 10 days. It should be banned. I admire, either it was the city of Detroit or the state of Michigan who banned heavy perfumes, lotions, cosmetics, scented candles in its public sector workplaces. Every workplace should do this!
Ban it completly? Not sure...
I don't think it should be banned completely; people have a choice, ya know...
I agree. I'm deathly alergic to kiwi. That doesn't mean they should ban it from grocery stores.
Does kiwi in the grocery store that you don't eat affect your health? It's gotten so out of hand my daughter can't bring a peanut butter sandwich to her preschool because some kids are allergic.
I can see this argument but I'm still supporting Michigan on this one. Bad hygiene and heavy perfume can adversely affect surrounding peoples' health. The woman who fought for this law I think was being kept by a co-worker's scent from doing her job because the scent aggravated her asthma. Asthma and migraines tend to go hand in hand. If it was all about choice, in my line of work employees would still be handling blood and bodily fluids without gloves, eating and smoking while working, transferring samples with mouth pipettes, allowed to chew gum while on duty, not to mention some would still be showing up in the latest hooker wear. Leave one's home and places open to the public to choices, not the workplace.
Usually, for alergic reactions that are deadly, the person can't even be around the product, so yes, it could. Plus, a lot of times, they put the kiwi on top of the fruit that I want to buy. If people are in a situation where their scent is overwhelming, and cannot be avoided simply by walking away, then yes, there should be some sort of a restriction. That's why a lot of hospital workers aren't allowed to wear perfume to work, but like Margorp and Chelsea said, banning it completely?
Wow. how did this top spin off into allergies. Back to hyigene, on those rare ocasions when I'll take a bath, I'll usually take a brief shower first, that way I know I'm clean before I add the bath water. I very rarely take baths, and usually only when it's cold, otherwise, a shower is very much preferred. It's less time-consuming, and I find it very soothing.
Shower before the bath? ah good idea.
I never thought of that, shower before the bath.
Hey makes sense...kind of a waste of water though
It is, but maybe do all the washing in the shower, and then relax in the bath.
I've seen a few posts that link bad hygiene to mites, bedbugs. Probably some truth, but that's not always the case.
Readers Digest ran an article on bedbugs about a year or two ago. Turns out since the banning of a pesticide called DDT, exterminators who maybe got one or two calls a week over something that resembled bedbugs (bites the person noticed only on awakening) are now getting a dozen or so per week. The calls before the ban on this wonderful pesticide usually went to transient motels & homes in more impoverished areas, now middle & upper class homes get infested.
Other causes of this are bringing home the pests from international trips, and believe it or not buying used furniture, where the pests can be transported w/o being seen on dressers, matresses, etc. The people selling the furniture can be the most clean living people but the absence of a pesticide effective for the critters has increased their #'s. You can live in a shower & still get 'em. Sorry, guys.
Also on the rise, previously controlled with DDT, is malaria in developing areas. In some of these areas this horrible disease was under control. Then do gooders in the U S, citing the death of birds, managed to get this agent banned, and malaria made a comeback. Rampant environmentalism has made things harder on everyone.
Yes, DDT may have lowered these problems, but it is incredibly harmful for people who come in physical contact with it, and I support its ban one hundred percent, and I'm sure the environmental activists, including myself, will get in an uproar about it if it was ever to be brought back.
Okay, just an observation here, but has anyone else noticed how much better a shower feels after a day of travel, or more especially, a night of being at the bar? Also, another perk to showering, the tub, if you have a tub-and-shower combo, doesn't develop nearly as much soap scum. I shower in the morning, cause it's sorta like my alarm clock, plus I'll feel refreshed before I go to work. So is everyone night or morning showering people?
I like showering in the morning, but I will take the occasional bath before going to bed. The hot water helps me relax.
I find showering helps me to wake up, and a bath helps me to relax, so if I want to settle down for the night, I take a bath, and if I'm trying to wake up, I'll have a shower.
Interesting. I should take a bath at night so I will maybe fall asleep faster.
thanks for the tip. could use a new sleeping remmidy?. yeah.
Sleeping remedies opens up a whole new topic. Bathing is just one of many natural alternatives to prescription or over-the-counter sleep aids, but I digress.
yup I already have a sleeping topic.
I will admit I'm a bit of a clean freak and slightly a germaphobe. I don't mind going outdoors and getting dirty, just so long as I can get clean.
I take at minimum two baths a day. The maximum is five usually. If I feel like it, I'll take six. I'm glad I work from home because when I get a hankering for it, I jump in the tub. The number of baths I take depends on many things--my mood, how busy I am, and how dirty I feel.
Most people accept me for it. I don't know anyone who does not, now that I think about it. Everyone I come into contact with just sees it as a part of who I am. I'm glad of that. Thankfully, these habits have never interfered with my ability to function. I've been like this ever since babyhood. My mom says I'd scream if I got sticky and always want a bath. When I was old enough to turn on the water, I was always in the tub. If my parents could not find me, that is where they knew to look. I was two when I taught myself to turn on my own bath water.
I love all different types of smelly soaps, lotions, and body splashes. Bubble bath is also a hit with me. And if I get my hands on some bath oil, that is always sweet! I have drawers of all the stuff. I have so much that people could literally go shopping in my house for the stuff, and depending on my mood, I'll wash with a different soap, wear a different lotion or body splash, or use a different bubble bath each time I bathe.
Brushing my teeth is another thing. I floss, use mouthwash, and brush three times a day. I'm very particular about my teeth, and I like to avoid talking to people in the morning at a close distance before I brush my teeth. I don't believe in kissing with morning breath also. Gross! The thought makes me sick. Both my partner and I must brush teeth thoroughly before doing that.
Your skin will not thank you as it will dry out do to too much showering.
Well, if she's using body lotions and moisturizers, the drying out of skin will take longer than just using soap. I definitely have a great appriciation for cleanliness, but I also believe there is a line between taking care of yourself and just being obsessed. It really isn't good to be too clean, because bacteria can grow a resistance to the cleaning products you use, and they'll eventually become almost useless.
As far as brushing teeth is concerned, three times a day is not too much, and is actually recommended by most dentists. Of course, everything in moderation. I've heard that brushing more than six times a day can weaken your teeth, but I'm not sure how accurate that is.
I like using bubble bath and locations. The problem is I have sensative skin.
Is it possible to get bubble bath for sensitive skin? It should be.
Reguarding brushing teeth, I was once told by my dentist that I was brushing to hard and it sort of messed up my teeth a bit. As a result, I have miled sensativity so be careful!
Yes, when I do my teeth I get ulsers by getting to close to the gum.
I didn't realise higiene affected your healh. I have got something that is caused by bad hygiene. Normally it is children that get it, Thread wirms.
I once was at the Jersey garden's mall and we were in a very long like. as we waited in a big line where there were too may people overcrowding the stores, this woman next to me had very abnoxious cheap perfume that was utterly disgusting to smell and was too overpowering. Mom started to get a headache after being in line because of the perfume. Mom then said "i'm going to throw up if i keep smelling the perfume and i replied, Mom i already feel sick thanks to her. By the time we were about to leave to go home the headache grew worse gradually until we were about to sit down to eat dinner which mom just ordered out. By the time i was sitting down i told mom "i need a pain pill because this headache is killing me. i can't stand people with abnoxious perfume, this is making me sick. I find that cheap perfume along with the scent of nail polish or cigaretts in poorly ventilated areas causes me to have a banging headache. I do try to avoid the use of pills to combat it because you can be dependent on them as for any meds if you use it often enough depending on how frequently you get them. I just try to sleep it off if i can . also when i do get it i don't want any noise not even my screen reader. Thank god i don't get them frequently or even so predictably or else i'd be miserable. i don't have too good of a tolerance for pain i was just born that way. this is the reason why i prefer light perfumesthat have a very light scent because very strong perfumes or even certain cents can be overpowering for me because my sense of smell is stronger and more heightened.
I too prefer not-so-strong perfume, as I can't stand the smell of certain fragrances, which people around me wear on a daily basis. :p This would be why I shower daily; perfume really doesn't do a very good job of covering Stench. In fact, the smell of whatever fragrance you happen to be wearing, along with the stench that comes from going extended periods of time without showering only mix together, and believe me, that's an aweful smell. Besides, I just don't see how anyone can go a long time without showering, wearing deodorant, or brushing their teeth.
SHU Interpreter, boy do I know what a banging headache from strong odors is like. As far as cheap perfume goes, 'Cotton Candy', a drugstore fragrance, is one of the worst. I used to wait for a woman in another work area to leave after picking up her samples so I could spray Lysol once she left. If you want something for a bad headache that isn't addictive, try Excedrine Migraine unless you have an aversion to caffeine. I find it usually works great unless I take it later in the headache. Just one dose for 12 hours should do the trick. Motrin 800, which still requires a prescription, shouldn't get you hooked either. I have found that medicine also to be quite effective.